IMPORTANT INFORMATION
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 1 IS THE DISTRICT ASSESSMENT FOR JOURNALISM
On Tuesday, May 31 we will review the material throughout the year that we covered.
On Thursday, June 9, you will take the world countries' assessment. I will pass out the study maps on Thursday, June 2. You will have class time to prepare.
This week we are blogging. Note: if you are uncomfortable with this topic, there is a substitute. The John Oliver's Late Night is a mature presentation. You need ear buds.
1. Read the following background information.
Blogging emerged in the late 1990s, coinciding with the advent of web publishing tools that facilitated the posting of content by non-technical users.Blogs are usually the work of a single individual, occasionally of a small group, and often are themed on a single subject. (Blog can also be used as a verb, meaning to maintain or add content to a blog.)
Although not a must, most good quality blogs are interactive, allowing visitors to leave comments and even message each other on the blogs; it is this interactivity that distinguishes them from other static websites. In that sense, blogging can be seen as a form of social networking. Indeed, bloggers do not only produce content to post on their blogs but also build social relations with their readers and other bloggers.
MECHANICS
This unit will consist of responding to two discussion points. What this will entail is that on Monday and Wednesday this week you will listen / watch a prompt to which you will respond. These responses should be subjective, much as one would write an editorial; however, they should not be diatribes, but insightful, reflective observations. At the same time, again like an editorial, there will be some controversy. Not everyone will have the same reaction.
Your initial response should be a minimum of 150 words. You should make reference to particular statements you have heard or read, make comments, pose questions and bring up tangential information. All responses are on the blog for everyone to read. Lead off your response with (blank says). These must be posted by midnight that day, in order for you to get credit. (You will easily be able to complete these in class.) The following day, you will scan the many observations, choose two and respond to them in a minimum of 100 words each. Again both must be posted by midnight for credit. Note, you may comment on anyone's blog from either journalism class. Make sure that your identity is clear!
SUMMARY
1. Monday: watch the John Oliver clip (16 minutes)
2. Respond and post your position / observation / reflection. (You might want to check your information.) Your initial response should be no fewer than 150 words. While the tone may be more conversational, you should adhere to correct standards of grammar, punctuation and spelling. This gives much more credence to what you say. As well, it will be noted in the grading.
3. Tuesday: Now read some of your classmates' responses and respond to at least two of these in a minimum of 100 words each. Make sure to identify yourself and to whom you are addressing. ( ie. dmpalond in response to Michael) Again, these are not attacks, but thoughtful reflections and observations. Also, you may want to do a little background reading to support your position.
4. Grading: For each article- and the two responses of a minimum of 100 words- you will potentially receive 95 points. A new article with be posted on Wednesday, at which point the responses for Monday's is closed. Again, make sure that you have identified yourself clearly on the blog, so that you receive the appropriate credit. As this is on line, you won't have any difficulties completing this whether you are in class.
5. Last item: as there are between 80 and 160 responses everyday that I must check, NO LATE WORK WILL BE ACCEPTED. As well, it is imperative that you identify yourself clearly, so that you receive credit for your work.
Monday's blog: Transgender people in the military? bathrooms? And yes, this is coming to SOTA. Your thoughts?
Transgender Rights
Tuesday's blog: if I did not receive your post, you have a zero. You may write yesterday's post for 50 points. (The exception, of course, will be made for legal absences)
Today: please comment, expand, question two of the posts on the blog. Make sure to identify yourself. As with yesterday, these must be done by midnight in order to get credit. I cannot go back
"fishing" for your responses.
Aleah Adams
ReplyDeleteImmediately the John Oliver segment on Transgender Rights showed ignorant clips from some of America’s most renowned reporters towards transgenders and they were ridiculous to me. I understand that these opinions and views towards transgender people have been created and molded from the media, school, religion and through people’s upbringings, however I feel if you’re going to be in a professional position (especially a famous reporter) you must be educated on all people and the appropriate and respectful things to say. The segment also went on to share the story about the two women at the DMV being treated so unfairly due to them being transgender. Referring to someone as “it” or as a gender that they don’t feel connected to is rude whether we’re aware of it or not. The anecdote about Logan serving in Afghanistan was also very shocking to me because I never would’ve thought that being deployed could feel like a vacation to some soldiers. That in and of itself shows how horrible life locally must be for transgenders, and that should be eye-opening for all people. My favorite part of the entire video had to be when John Oliver brought up the point of bathrooms being based on gender identity not on the genitalia individuals possess. I never connected the stick figure depictions of a stereotypical male and female on every bathroom door to this transgender debate, but it makes so much sense and again solidifies the reason why transgender people should be allowed to live freely and equally as all other people.
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DeleteI completely understand where you're coming from, if you're in the spotlight of a community or the whole word, you don't want to make a fool out of yourself, I understand that it might be how you feel or your own opinion but like you said when you're a figure in the media you should keep the comments to yourself. Transgender people are just like as, they are comfortable with who they are just like you and me. John Oliver said the harsh reality to the people who are discriminating against transgender, he said the things that most people are afraid to say.
DeleteI was also struck by John Oliver's argument about the images on the doors. I've become so used to the image of an individual in a dress representing my sex that I forget that the two aren't mutually exclusive. Just because someone has a vagina doesn't mean that a person wearing a dress is an accurate representation of that person. I personally love when shows like John Oliver highlight media ignorance. It is truly hilarious to see news sources which preach truth, justice and fairness showing their obvious biases and lack of knowledge on subjects about which they've made assumptions.
DeleteAleah, I completely agree with religion, upbringing and media fueling some rather ignorant views in particular. What many of these people fail to realize is how to properly conduct themselves in the professional world. People are supposed to not let personal feelings or views interfere with their work ethic and tasks, but in reality, it happens all too often. The denial and discrimination from not just those in public positions, but from well known people is the most disappointing thing to see. What I think needs to be done, is to revise and maybe enhance guidelines for work, which would emphasize the importance of transgender rights. In the world we live in, it's impossible for everyone to be accepting, but steps can be made to create tolerance and respect.
DeleteYour take on this issue is completely correct and I agree with a lot of your points. Its baffling how these reporters, trained in the proper etiquette and mannerisms while conducting interviews, so out rightly degrade these people. They treat these transgender interviewees like they are experiments; subhumans that are difficult to understand without being analyzed. The fact that they feel safer in a war zone than in their own homeland is truly a testament to our failed efforts to uphold civil rights for everyone. I agree with you that if your going to be in such an influential, professional position, you should at the very least be exposed to such a prevalent issue.
DeleteThe point you brought up about the bathroom door signs especially clicked with me. A person's sex is not designated to either male or female sexual organs anyway, but rather to their stereotypical appearance. It raises the question as to how we separate bathrooms in the first place. Boys can always just use a stall, why not make community bathrooms with only stalls? Of course that's a radical thought, but it doesn't promote violence like opponents of the trans-gendered issue propose. There's no reason to suggest that you're more likely to be assaulted in a men's restroom than a women's or vice-versa. All of it is just a big old non-issue.
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DeleteAleah you used the right word when you used the word “ignorance” because that’s where these people’s opinion on the trans topic begin and end, straight ignorance. They use absolutely worthless and cowardly excuses to fight a cowardly and worthless fight. Another terrible excuse is when people compare a trans individual using their bathroom of choice to a situation where sexual assault is encouraged… HOW ARE THOSE EVEN MUTUAL?! Rape and sexual assault is still illegal no matter what bathroom they choose and is still just as possible to happen if they enter the bathroom of the sex they were born as. I have come to a conclusion that the people who oppose transgender rights, don’t have a single good argument.
John Oliver showed a sense of courage and said things that many might be afraid or scared to say. He gave points of teenagers and adults and their views on how the felt and how they were treated by the community and the country. People treat others with limited respect and it shows the respect that they have for themselves. The words said by other adults to one another show sense of disrespect and that they don’t care about you if you don’t go by the sex that you’re assigned at birth. Teenagers are bullied for being who they actually are and how they feel comfortable. We can all say that we’ve been there but our generation is more open to new things and how they see themselves. Passing a bill that will create people to be who they are and going into the right bathroom that they feel comfortable, the people who don’t want to pass it are the people who are afraid of change and for a new step for everyone.
ReplyDeleteBrittnee, I honestly agree with exactly what you’re saying. I wrote almost exactly what you said. Out of many people who are actually known, he was the only one that I was aware of who came out with that type of courage. Because it’s becoming such a huge issue in society today, a lot of bigger names who secretly support this bathroom policy, should come out and speak because when they do that, people’s opinions would change. And I feel this way because nowadays a lot of people, especially our age and younger, are focused on the opinions of celebrities versus the opinions and views that they believe in themselves because fame is involved.
DeleteI agree with that totally because in our generation some of us have grown to accept the differences of people in society and new things, gay people are beginning to be more accepted into society, hipster, goth there is just a variety of personalities and I feel like they should not be treated differently than anyone else of different standing or beliefs that the so called average person.
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ReplyDeleteThe state of Arizona says “You will be fined $2500 and sentenced 6 months in jail if the gender on your birth certificate doesn’t match the sign on the bathroom that you use.” Having transgender bathrooms does bother me a little bit because it’s something new that we haven’t gotten used to yet. We have to start accepting people as who they are and want to be instead of punishing them and forcing them to fit into society as what we want them to be. Transgender people in the military doesn’t bother me either I see no problem in it at all. The only problem about the bathrooms is the fear that certain men pretending to be transgender would go into a girl’s bathroom and sexually harass and/or abuse the women or girls in there. Having transgender bathrooms and having something happen in there wouldn’t be any different if it were to happen elsewhere. So we would just have to be as cautious in bathrooms as if we were outside of them.
I in your paragraph it quotes “The state of Arizona says “You will be fined $2500 and sentenced 6 months in jail if the gender on your birth certificate doesn’t match the sign on the bathroom that you use.” feel like this rule is ridiculous because people should not be fined this much money or at that fact no money at all for expressing who they really want to be. They mad that choice because the must not like their previous gender or something happened to make them want to change and they should not be punished for wanting to make a change.
DeleteI believe there is a danger of having people cross dress and pretend to be something they are not in order to cause harm or danger to others, however, one can cause danger or harm to anyone under almost all circumstances, in a bathroom or not. Which bathroom one chooses to use should be ones choice. Everyone should be cautious with strangers inside and outside the restroom, regardless of ones gender. I understand that some people feel more comfortable with bathrooms being separated by gender,however, with that being said, one should used which ever restroom best suits, the gender one identifies oneself as.
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ReplyDeleteTransgender people have a gender identity that differs from the one they were given at birth and their identity has nothing to with their sexual orientation and who they love, but even in the 21st century people are still confused on the concept of being a transgender. A transgender women is just a women or and a transgender man is just a man, and you refer to them with what they feel most comfortable with.
For many years the community has faced many hardships. In recent studies 41% of transgender people have attempted to commit suicide, have had harassment throughout k-12 schooling, have faced some type of sexual or physical assault and will make less than the average worker.
I feel that forcing transgender people in to bathroom’s or places that they do not feel comfortable with, not allowing them to serve in the military, or be themselves in general is very wrong and causes much more of a disruption then it actually should. I wish people could be more open-minded and understanding with their beliefs but also understand what someone else does with their life has nothing to do with you.
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DeleteI enjoyed reading and also share the same view as your response. I really liked that you posted the facts from the John Oliver video right at the top of your response, the facts are saddening and really prove you point; “forcing transgender people in to bathroom’s or places that they do not feel comfortable with, not allowing them to serve in the military, or be themselves in general is very wrong and causes much more of a disruption then it actually should.” Your response quickly and effectively showed your opinion on the topic and proved your point, I think it would be very difficult for even the most anti transgender person to argue against your point.
Saisha Delvalle
DeleteI agree with you 100%. Keeping people away from their equal rights just because you disagree with their lifestyle is so evil to me; just like you said, their life has nothing to do with you. Transgender people are being treated in such a cruel way just because they want to change who they are to be able to feel happy. Nobody would want to be a gender that they don't feel comfortable with, so why should society tell them that they have to be whatever gender is stated on their birth certificate. It's not like they can't ever get a new certificate with their preferred gender, most states permit that while others require medical proof of the sex change. Society has to accept change and treat everyone equally because at the end of the day, we're all humans.
I agree with everything you said, People should focus on their own lives and stop worrying so much about what others are doing with theirs. At the end of the day everyone is the same, because we are all human, and no one can take that away from anyone else. Everyone should respect others for who they are, and stop trying to degrade people, and separate Humans based on personal characteristics, and physical appearance. No one is above anyone else, everyone is equal, and should be treated equally when it comes to gender, race, sexual orientation, etc.
DeleteThe mistreatment of transgender people should not be acceptable within the United States society. Every person is entitled to their opinion, however that does not give people the right to discriminate someone who happens to be transgender. For example two transgender women were asked to remove their jewelry, makeup, and wigs before having their photograph taken at the DMV. Another instance is within the army where transgender people are sometimes refused to enlist and can even be discharged for their sexual orientation. Perhaps the biggest form of discrimination is “Bathroom Bills” where transgender people must use the bathroom of the sex they were born with not with which they feel comfortable in. This law in Arizona is a fine of $2500, which is ridiculous since they’re just trying to use the bathroom. This bill can also cause bullying for kids who are forced to be in the wrong bathroom. Our country has gotten over women’s rights, civil rights, and even gay rights. At this point discrimination should have no place in the United States anymore.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the fine of $2500 can start a form of bullying with it either being verbal or physical. Just wondering, what would you have done if you were in the shoes of the transgender women who were asked to remove the jewelry, makeup etc? Would you have took those things off because they asked and not cruelly forced you to do so or would you have said something?
DeleteThen thing about the fine I wondered is would they do that to the average woman who used the mens bathroom say if the womans was full. They are blatantly being picked out of society's and treated differently and told what they cam and can't do. This makes me question the morals of people in America because they are so concerned about what someone else does with there body or life style.
DeleteJohn Oliver’s segment on transgender rights was informative and eye opening. Before viewing the video, I was unaware and uneducated about most things relating to transgender people and their rights. Although I know a transgender person, I never took the time to sit down and learn about it. This video was very beneficial in widening my view on this issue. For instance, I never knew that transgender people are banned for enlisting because of “defects of the genitalia including change of sex.” I think that that is an unfair law because people shouldn’t be allowed to enlist just because they have different genitalia. They are still human, so they should have the same rights as everyone else. I also think that it is especially appalling that Captain Jacob Eleazer was being awarded as he was being kicked out. It’s completely ridiculous to me that they are trying to sugar coat the fact that he is being kicked out because of what he identifies with an award.
ReplyDeleteZoe you bring up a pretty big point with things such as serving in the war. It’s completely dumb that people aren’t allowed to fight in the war because of the sex that they identify themselves with. It’s Ludicrous. When you look at it that way, just because you’re a woman identifying yourself as a man, does that automatically make yourself weak because of you being born a woman? If you’re a man identifying yourself as a woman does that mean you won’t be able to get a promotion over another man who actually sees himself as a man? It’s stupid to think that because you identify yourself as the opposite sex that you were born as that you’re dehumanized and your rights are being attacked. You being able to fight in the war shouldn’t be determined by your sex, but your capability, strength, courage and etc. Not because you’re woman with a penis.
DeleteI feel like this is a very unfortunate and unfair thing that transgender people have to go through. They should able to be comfortable with who they are and feel like they can be accepted in their communities or anywhere. These laws are keeping them from being themselves and being happy. I feel like some people may support the LGBT community but dont do much to help changes be made in their communities that would benefit the LGBT community. The things that they have to go through are ridiculous and something should be done to change these situations. I also feel like this day in age people should be way more accepting of the transgender community and laws should've already been changed or made to make them feel more comfortable to be themselves. They should feel protected under the law because of the fact that they are citizens who deserve to be treated equal.
ReplyDeleteIn this video John Oliver makes some very good points. Admittedly I have always walked the middle road when it comes to arguments over gender identity and bathrooms. I have come to the conclusion that I simply do not care about which bathroom people use so long as they are comfortable and that people are safe. It has been pointed out to me several times that the fear of harassment in bathrooms is not one with a lot of reality behind it since trans-gendered people have been choosing where they use the bathroom for years before legislation brought up the issue. Privacy is something that we are all entitled to, and it is about time that people begin to realize that that means the inclusion of life style choices like gender identity and sexual orientation. It baffles me that there is more success for removing discrimination in the military overseas, than there is at home, especially in reference to bathrooms.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your standing on this. I find it interesting to see how many people have changed their views on the topic of the transgender community after people like John Oliver have brought it into the public's minds. I really like your ending argument when you say that it is crazy how we have a harder time solving issues within the U.S., rather than issues overseas. The fact that this has become such a hugely controversial topic is mind boggling, especially since this has been a topic of discussion for decades.
DeleteAnn this is a really insightful approach, and I agree completely. It is simply ridiculous that anyone would think that they have the right to decide where someone else will go to use the bathroom. I particularly like that you brought up privacy, as it is an important right that isn't always remembered in America. The Right to Privacy is the basis for the decision in Roe v. Wade, allowing women to get an abortion, another decision which, like using a certain bathroom, has nothing to do with anyone other than the person making the decision. I am shocked that people believe they should still be allowed to take away others rights.
DeleteLike you, I believe that it shouldn't matter what bathrooms are used as long as everyone is safe. The fear of harassment will continue despite any measures put in place. Non-transgender men and women can be harassed by non-transgender men and women, and vise versa. As you state, until recently not many people cared if transgender used the bathroom they identified with personally. I believe that recent major media coverage over complicates this issue despite its simplicity. I enjoy your ending statement because we pride ourselves as the "home of the free" and yet people are less intimidated by a war zone over seas than their own home.
DeleteI find it humorous (not in a hilarious, just a little funny) that you walk the middle of the road in this issue. I think most people are kind of in the middle of the road for issues of this kind. I mainly say this, because, it is such a private issue that people who are impacted by the issue don't want to talk about. Privacy is something that allows us to walk the middle of the road, as privacy leaves these issues to the individual. Privacy is a right that has been achieved by legal and social struggle since the beginning of the country, but it doesn't seem that there is any end in sight.
DeleteBefore I watched this video I wasn’t really updated with exactly what was going on with the transgender. But I was slightly aware of the fact that those who are considered to be transgender are not allowed to go into the bathroom that they truly felt comfortable, But places such as Arizona, they are not allowing those of the gender that they were born as, to go into the bathroom of the opposite sex. I think that people fail to realize how things really are. I mean not every man and woman in this world that uses the bathroom is a sexual offender. People look at it in a way to “protect their customers” or to “protect their children.” I can see what they mean because it does seem a bit iffy due to the fact there are sexual offenders in this world. But I mostly agree with allowing males or women to use the bathroom where they truly feel comfortable. If it was the case where my child grew up to be a transgender male or female and they were harassed for being the transgender I would fight for their rights because they are human, support and acceptance is truly needed in society. It’s unfortunate though because I know that there are some people in this world that would disown their family for being of transgender.
ReplyDeleteClifton, it's good that you have become more informed about issues in the transgender community. I agree with you about how not all people are sex offenders. It's understandable how there might be some discomfort because of stereotypes. However, I don't think that this discrimination or use of stereotypes is okay. It's not morally right to make someone feel unaccepted or uncomfortable, period. What transgender people have to go through is heart breaking. As a nation, we need to progress and understand that every person, regardless of who they prefer to identify as in terms of male or female.
DeleteTransgender people in the military doesn’t bother me. The only problem about the bathrooms is the fear that certain men pretending to be transgender would go into a girl’s bathroom and sexually harass and/or abuse the women or girls . Oliver showed a sense of courage and said things that many might be afraid to say. Transgender Rights showed ignorant clips from some of America’s most renowned reporters towards transgender and they were ridiculous to me. This shows that people let their opinions over power reality and it shouldn’t be that way because to be transgender is what society has become it should be something new. Transgender should have the right to what everyone else can without a label on it or a fear or a doubt in the world. The video also shared the story about the two women at the DMV being treated so unfairly due to them being transgender. I hear kids referring to the in different human beings as it and it disrespectful because there just like everyone else and they share the same futures and people show in humanistic action when they degrade another human being because they made the decision to change themselves and be the people they believe they should be. I have always been in the cross way because i believe that everybody is unique in their own way and they should at least have one chance and to rove them self without a consequence. People are still confused on the definition of transgender if there a women simply a women and it work the same for men. Watching this video really opened my eyes and hopefully opened other people’s eyes it also enlightened me on so much about how transgender people are treated and I don’t know how they survive the cruel behavior of other humans.
ReplyDeleteEverything that you’re saying relates and I completely agree with you. Referring to someone as “it” is a form of disrespect and is completely disgusting. Your generation is open to the thought of new things and will respect and welcome people with respect. Treating someone like they’re nothing shows how much self-respect you have and shows that you don’t care. The way the people in this segment were treated in cruelty and outrageous, the people who make these accusations and how they treat them makes others not want to be around. People like John Oliver need to be recognized in the right way for sticking up for the LGBT community.
DeleteIt's nice to see people like you being enlightened by videos on the transgender community and being exposed to different perspectives. I completely agree with the fact that transgender people are just people who are unique in their own different ways and that they are entitled to the same rights just as any person, but sadly they sometimes get treated like they don't. As for your opinion on bathrooms, I feel like you may be taking the situation the wrong way, considering that the media and certain social constructs likes to encourage ignorant slurs and invalid information about transgender people and perceive them in certain ways in which they shouldn’t be perceived. Sexual predators and child molesters can rape and assault anywhere, even in their own bathrooms.
DeleteI agree with everything you stated. I 100% agree with you when you said Transgender people should have the right to what everyone else does, because they are not any different than us. Also, the way the two women were disrespected at the DMV is completely wrong, and that should not have happened. Being called “it” also is very disrespectful and I do not understand how hard it is just to call someone he or she, instead of “it.” How would they like it if someone called them an “it?” I also agree with how you stated that it is degrading other humans when people refer to transgender people as “it.”
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DeleteI absolutely agree with you on this one. I like how you said that people let their opinions overpower reality because it makes me think about how our society is corrupt because many people manipulate others and get into their heads, making them come up with different ideas and speculations that make many situations, such as this one, seem like a bad thing. We need to rise up from corruption and we need rise up for peace, love, justice, and equality.
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ReplyDeleteWhen I am watching this video am observing that I see that these people like in interviews or on TV etc. are in a sort of way being disrespectful to people (Transgender) by asking questions about their private parts, questions that should not be asked in front of an audience because they could feel embarrassed and want to keep those answers to their self. My opinion on this topic is that I don’t care what they do because it tis their body and in America you have freedom meaning if a guy on day says he wants to be a woman he has the right to and you can’t do nothing about it but only because they are making this change don’t mean you go be disrespectful by asking questions and making people feel uncomfortable it means call them what they want to be called and treat them with respect on whatever decision they make with their life.
No one just “one day” wants to change their gender but I understand where you are coming from with that statement. I agree with you that their comments and questions are very disrespectful to might embarrass them or make them feel uncomfortable. Also not everyone has the same mindset and they might discriminate against the transgender women and men and will not call them what they want to be identified as and just because they ask questions doesn’t mean that they are being disrespectful, it can just mean that they are ignorant to the situation and want to know more. It also does matter when, where and how someone asks the question so that it doesn’t offend them.
DeleteI completely agree that transgender people should not be told where to use the bathroom, especially since the people do not feel comfortable and they don’t fit in. I also feel as if it should not matter what bathroom you go in because all you are going in the bathroom to do is pee or poop and it is very unlikely for a fake transgender or actual transgender to rape someone. This argument about the bathrooms should not even be a relevant topic because it really should not matter what bathroom you use and this topic is a waste of time. I feel as if this is another way to discriminate against people who are different and the people who don’t agree with letting transsexuals use the bathroom they identify with, do not have a valid reason for not letting them do what they feel.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with transgender people should enter whatever bathroom they feel comfortable in because they shouldn't have to be in an environment where they don't feel comfortable. Say for instance, you had a child around the age of 6 or 7 and around that age they are pretty used to going to the bathroom by their selves, would you let them still enter the bathroom with having knowledge that a transgender person is in that bathroom or would you go with them?
DeleteI really love this paragraph and the fascinating ideals that you bring to the table. You're quite passionate about the subject and I agree with you when you say that "it really should not matter what bathroom you use" I wish you would've used some context from the video, as it would've made your argument even more valid! You made this so called complex subject into a simple statement. "All you are going to do is pee or poop" which is so simple yet genius, because that is the point of bathrooms. I love the simple and straight forward tone you have, because you are ignoring the opposition’s views and sticking to your guts. Lovely.
DeleteBefore watching the John Oliver video, I had minimal knowledge about trans genders and the bathroom controversy. After watching the video and researching a bit more..I agree with Caz and his thoughts on this issue. The discrimination against trans genders in America is horrendous. Jacqui Rivait once said, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". That very quote applies here. I feel like everyone should be treated as equals and should have the right to live comfortably, and happily. Especially if they're not bothering or doing any harm to another individual.
ReplyDeleteIn the video clip, there were two transgender women who attended the DMV that were harassed by employees there. The one woman was literally crying on camera because she could not believe how she was just violated and mistreated. That really broke my heart. I hope there were some type of disciplinary actions for the workers and the pain that they caused.
Regarding trans genders in the military, It does not bother me. Do what makes you happy. If a trans gender wants to join the military, let them. I don’t see the harm.
Overall, I just feel that trans genders should have the right to live happily and comfortably without being discriminated and mistreated.
Overall, I think that everyone should be accepted for who they are. I think that the issue within society is that many are misinformed about many of the upcoming issues that we are facing. There are many who don’t know anything about trans genders. Yet, many are quick to give their opinion on something they have no knowledge about. I wish that people were more open minded about many of these aspects. Discrimination and inequality is not a new idea in the United States. It is something we have been facing for many years. I completely agree with you. Everyone should be treated equal. This is just something that we have to work toward.
Deleteit's lovely how so many people of our generation, despite being uneducated on the topic initially, are immediately supportive and take the side of the underdog as you have. You understand the unnecessary pain they go through to be happy like anyone else.
DeleteOne of the best mottos out there is "if you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all", and I thoroughly respect that viewpoint to be projected towards opponents of the issue. At large, trans-gendered people aren't doing any harm whatsoever to the people who are unsupportive of them. They should not have a say if it is just to belittle and restrict their civil rights and liberties.
I firmly believe that this fight for transgender rights represents a pivotal time in American history. It is our duty as citizens of a country that claims to promote equality and justice to ensure the rights of our fellow people. I believe that the number of transgender individuals who simply want to use the bathrooms that they feel they should be using far outnumber the ignorant men or women who will try to take advantage of this law in order to harm others. The benefits outweighs the possible negatives that haven't even occurred yet. I am disappointed in the people of our country and John Oliver's segment only reinforces the idea that the American people need to get with the program. Discrimination and denying a person their civil rights is not a new idea to America, but I believe that our progressive generation can change that. We need to adapt and make sure that we are knowledgeable about these topics because they are happening right now. They're not happening somewhere else. They're happening in places that we know and to people that we know. We need to respect that and fight for everyone's rights, not just ours, or the rights of the few.
ReplyDeleteI love the passion and emotion that you show in this well written paragraph, it is truly moving. The fact that our country is based upon equality and justice is a great point in your argument. I too used the proof of discrimination in our society and how the American people are being quite ignorant and small-minded. I also think your comment on being progressive as a nation is an uplifting statement and even gives me hope when this subject is so depressing. The one thing I think you could've added was a couple of examples from the video of how they were being discriminated. However this paragraph is still very strong and powerful. Well done mate.
DeleteIt is appalling to me how uncomfortable so many lawmakers and leaders in our country are with the topic of trans-gendered people in general. The confusion they display by questioning of their genitalia is not "understanding the issue more" but rather purely ignorant, judgemental conversations seeking to further place them into a gender stereotype. They are simply trans-gendered, or do not identify with the gender they were given at birth. That's it. It has nothing to do with their genitalia or sexual preferences anyway! Those are completely unrelated discrepancies and should be treated as such. Not to mention how speaking of sexual orientation or anatomy is a personal right to keep private. Trans-gendered people are not suddenly exempt from the privacy of the rest of their life just because they have decided to make known their change in gender identity.
ReplyDeleteThis is an issue that will most likely phase in by age group. Millennials seem to already view it as normal. I personally don't find it abnormal at all anymore to know someone who is trans-gendered, and knowing someone's gender identity doesn't change that I should treat them like I would anyone else. It will be a transition for older generations who didn't accept it as normal 40 years ago, But just like every civil rights issue, John Oliver is right when he says history is unkind to those not on the side of civil rights.
I really enjoyed the first part of your paragraph. It is the duty of our lawmakers and leaders to do what is best for our country and to progress along with us as we move forward. If the majority of the people in this country have accepted others, our lawmakers should represent us by doing the same! I also agree with the idea of millennials. I have a lot of faith that our generation will be the generation to rid our country of many of the prejudices that have developed since it was first founded. I really like your viewpoint!
DeleteI like how you brought up the "not understanding the issue more" and the ignorance of the lawmakers that stand in the way of these civil liberties. In American history we have sadly seen this fear time and time again. Just a decade or two ago it was he popular belief that people were only gay in order to be sexual predators and pedophiles. During the Civil Rights movement of the 60's it was a common belief that black men only wanted civil rights so they could marry white women. Time and time again the American people have left themselves susceptible to rule by fear as they stay in the dark of ignorance.
DeleteYes, I absolutely believe that transgender people should be allowed to use whatever restroom corresponds with the gender they identify with. It is not a matter of whether or not you think they should or not. It is nobodies business beside the people whose problem it is. There have been virtually no sexual assaults done to children by transgender people in bathrooms. Meanwhile there have been many many cases of bathroom harassment done by elected conservative officeholders. There is no argument that is legitimate against it. It boils down to the fact that you should be comfortable in a bathroom if you identify as a woman, or as a male. If someone identifies as a woman, they should use the women's restroom.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion it shouldn't be a debate at all. It should be illegal for people to even propose these bills because it constitutes as a hate crime, and as blatant discrimination. It's like if someone tried to pass a bill legalizing separate but equal--again.
I completely agree with you Austin. To put forth bills that discriminate directly against a group of people is unconstitutional. The fifth and fourteenth amendment were put in place to protect individual’s rights. They both limit the federal and state government from creating laws that discriminate. The fourteenth specifically mainly applies to discrimination in the work place, but prevents discrimination based on of membership in a group, like a race, religion or sex. In addition to its being unconstitutional, it shouldn’t matter what someone identifies as or where they feel comfortable going to the bathroom. More importantly people should be protected by the laws set in place, rather than putting them in further danger.
DeleteI wholeheartedly agree with your statement that this shouldn't even be an issue or debate at all. People are too concerned with what other people are doing, always poking their nose into something that doesn't directly concern them. The only argument that people who are against LGBT rights is that it will increase sexual assaults. Let me explain why that it the most absurd thing I've ever heard. First one all you think that just because someone who was born a man but who identifies as a woman will automatically rape someone? You think that a simple sign will keep out rapists and predators? Like they'll see a woman's bathroom sign and stop their attempt to rape someone because of that? No that's idiotic. the argument is invalid and is based on fear not fact.
DeleteJohn Oliver’s segment on transgender rights shows that the way transgender people are treated by being harassed, assaulted both physically and mentally, and bullied is not right at all. They are people, just like we are, there’s no differences between the two. I totally agree 100% with Oliver when he was talking about transgender people not being able to use the proper bathroom that they identify with, and I feel that it is wrong that they are not allowed to use the bathroom that they want to. If there is such a big problem about someone who was born female but is now male using the male restroom, there are stalls that people who are not comfortable with that happening can use. Just because someone identifies as a different gender than what they were born as, does not mean that they only identify themselves as the opposite gender because they want to hurt or harass, etc. you in the bathroom. Also, the bill that was passed in the state of Arizona about “You will be fined $2,500 and be sentenced to 6 months in jail if the gender on your birth certificate does not match the sign on the restroom that you use,” is not right and I do not agree with it at all because as stated previously, they are not identifying themselves as the opposite gender just to have the chance to harass someone in the bathroom. So, with that being said, I would not have a problem with a transgender person going into the same bathroom that I use, because all they are doing is using the bathroom, and there are stalls in the bathroom for a reason.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you, Alyssa. Transgender people are just people and should not be treated any differently. They should be aloud to use the bathroom they feel most comfortable with without being harassed or forced into situations that make them feel uncomfortable. I also agree that I would not have a problem with a transgender person going into the same bathroom that I use (mainly because I rarely use public bathrooms anyways) but also because, like you said, all they're doing is using the bathroom and there's nothing wrong with that at all.
DeleteI feel like I would not have an issue either because lots of people deserve to be respected. From every race to every gender, we all deserve to have justice and equality. These do not have any right to express and that's sad because that's basically saying that they cannot have freedom. I think in this scenario, one law that applies is the 14th amendment, in which that it addresses the equal protection of laws. Under any circumstance, nobody should be withheld from their rights. It is just unacceptable. Especially in day and age, we have enough problems going on as it is.
DeleteAfter watching this video, I started questioning how I felt on this issue. I felt uncertain as to how I would feel if someone told me they were transgender, or if someone I knew told me they were becoming transgender. I would know what to say, of course, but it feels hypocritical to be so conflicted internally. I feel as though it stems from what I feel is natural and the lack of exposure to an otherwise rising issue in this country. John Oliver made a number of interesting points and arguments that seemed to resonate with my own. There appears to be an acknowledgment of a transgender's humanity, and ability to be a person, but nothing beyond that. The fact that these people feel safer in hostile enviorments, where gender serves no purpose or distinction, rather than being safely at home where they are discriminated against, speaks volumes about their vulnerability and mistreatment. The issue seems to be that, despite what the populace may say and pledge to protect, there is little to no response to these injustices. People supplant their emotions where they should be implementing wisdom and action. It feels as though people should come to realize is that their personal feelings or understanding towards another person are unimportant. As a citizen of the United States of America, every person has the duty to protect any given individual's rights and ensure their equal protection, treatment, and citizenship under our country's laws.
ReplyDeleteI find your viewpoint very interesting. The fact that you talk about your initial uncomfortable feelings of the issue and then your change of heart speaks volumes about how the media can change the way people feel about certain topics. I liked the fact that you later talk about how it is our duty to help these people. I agree that we need to call out the discrimination these people have to deal with everyday. This is the only way we will be able to solve the issues at hand and create a more tolerant and accepting society for us to live in.
DeleteI agree with how you believe that it is our duty as citizens of the United States of America to protect each other’s individual rights and pursue equality. I also appreciate that you were able to admit that you were initially uncomfortable about the topic and were not quite sure about how to feel about it. I also like how you made it apparent that this is such a controversial topic and many people advocate for integration and look for ways to stop discrimination, yet not many people are going out and responding to the situation or taking the steps necessary in order to implement rules that would be beneficial to transgender people.
DeleteOf all the comments I browsed through, yours caught my attention the most. I commend you for your courage to have a different viewpoint and I appreciate your honesty. Not everybody has the same mindset and believes in the same things, but to be have an open mind and be willing to change your disposition when given a proper reason is amazing. You could tell just by your short paragraph that you’re intelligent. Even if I don’t agree with your initial opinion, you presented it in such a respectable manner that it didn’t upset in any way shape or form. I also don’t think it could possibly bother someone else.
DeleteThe point of your response to John Oliver's video segment that caught my attention was your willingness to speak of your uncertainties on transgender people. Many would say what would is expected on a controversial topic. You point out how many agree that this discrimination is wrong and yet do nothing to help end it, and you are right. With State legislatures passing laws such as needing identification to use a public bathroom, those that support transgender rights are making no true progress. It is sad that dangerous places such as Afghanistan feel safer than their own homes.
DeleteTransgender people should have every right that any non transgender person has. How someone sees themselves, as a male or female, shouldn't change the rights given to them by the Constitution. Transgender people shouldn't be told where they have to use public toilets, especially if they feel uncomfortable in that setting. Nor should they be criminalized and discriminated against for their gender identity. A pedophile attacking children in bathroom under the guise of transgender protection and equality laws, would have done it anyway. Being transgender doesn't automatically mean you are a molester or criminal. Transgenders are simply people, the same as you or I.
ReplyDeleteI agree with all being said in James Streeter reply because transgender are the the same as regular people and only because they don’t want to be the same gender as he was born as don’t mean their rights should be limited because they are legal citizens in the united states and they have their own freedom to do whatever they want and to also be whoever they want if they decide to be a male or female, because they have the right to do that
DeleteI really like this viewpoint. It is simple and straight to the point. Transgenders are people, no different from anyone else. We shouldn't be "debating" the rights of any person because those rights should not be up for debate in the first place. I also really liked your point that a molester attempting to molest children in public bathrooms would do it regardless of the passing of a law. I think that it is simply a flimsy excuse that lawmakers and conservatives are using to justify their ridiculous fear of anything that they don't understand or of anyone who is different from them. Great paragraph!
DeleteThere should be many opportunities in which transgender individuals should be able to express themselves without having to feel embarrassed or ashamed. These individuals should have a right to use the bathroom in which they do feel comfortable in and they should have the right to serve in the military. The stuff that happens today is just basic judgement and discrimination caused by fear and what is known to be unusual. Everything that John Oliver said is highly agreeable and it is clear that he does stand up for LGBT rights, in which everybody should. I know that looking back in history, we African Americans were degraded this way once. We faced segregation, the separation between whites and blacks. We faced it with restrooms, restaurants, hospitals, schools, etc. This is what this predicament reminds of, except this time it involves gender. We need to get over this kind of pressure, because if we do come face to face with this kind of situation, the constant state of fear we have with this situation will fade to the point where we feel we can accept it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your statement that this whole transgender bathroom issue does have similarities to how African Americans were treated in times of segregation. If we wanted to go in a "Whites Only" bathroom we had legal consequences to deal with that weren't taken lightly. If a trans-woman tried to use a women's bathroom today there would be a huge incident. This shouldn't be the case. When you use the bathroom that's simply what you should be doing. Of course you might pamper yourself and such but that's generally the typical bathroom experience. You shouldn't be concerned about who is in the stall next to you because you aren't there for them, you're there so you and you only so that should be the only thing on your mind. This issue really shouldn't be an issue at all. The whole situation just isn't that deep.
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DeleteI completely agree with you- history is repeating itself. Minorities were treated in the same degrading way that transgenders are being treated now. And it hasn't been just race and gender, it's been the same with religious beliefs and sexual orientations. I don't understand why it is so hard for society to accept people for who they are and their happiness. People fear this change because their not educated enough on the topic. As quoted by Lauren, "A transgender women is just a women or and a transgender man is just a man, and you refer to them with what they feel most comfortable with." Their preferred gender also has nothing to do with who they are attracted to. I think that we have to be more open to change, and start to learn that the world doesn't consist of just straight males and just straight females; we're all different and should have the right to be equally happy.
I agree with your point of transgender people being allowed to use the bathroom they are most comfortable in, and allowed to be in the military as well. I also agree with how you brought up the history in which how African American’s were treated differently just because of their skin color, same as how transgender people are being treated differently just because the gender identity that they identify themselves with. I feel that this should not be an issue at all, because the whole situation is honestly just stupid. If there are people who are uncomfortable with a transgender using the same bathroom as them, just don’t use the bathroom and wait until you are comfortable to actually use the bathroom when they leave. It really is not that serious.
Deletei agree with you Allen things really haven't change much and for us to have people antagonizing others for what they want to be. the fact that people are being judges is ridiculous because it is more than just against minorities or race its way more than that and it sad that things are changing and the laws do so many thing but they do not change the fact that people are still harassed and that and are suffering depression because of the implications put on from other people. i believe we should be more open to the fact that people want to be different and that we need to accept it because its not our place to judge .
DeleteI agree with your points as I also believe that transgender people should be able to express themselves without facing constant discrimination. Everyone should have equal opportunity for things such as enlisting in the military and especially in that case, your gender should not be such a huge problem. I believe that this is due to America’s history of being uncomfortable with change. As you mentioned, African Americans were also discriminated against and that also had to do with changing times and trying to integrate a different kind of people into our society. Unfortunately, it might be difficult for Americans, even whatever percentage of us it may be who have opposing views on transgender people, for us to be able to integrate and accommodate transgender people into our society. We live in a time where anyone can be offended by anything and can be very vocal about it and cause all sorts of uproars. We need to push past all of this and unite society as a whole.
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ReplyDeleteFirstly, the transgender bathroom situation is being taken the wrong way, much thanks to ignorant slurs and lack of valid information from social media. Firstly, when you go to a Target, Wegmans, or any public facility, how often do you use the bathroom? I don’t think that you go to a store to use the bathroom the entire time. You use the bathroom and then you leave to shop. The argument of younger children being prone to rape by allowing this is untrue. The adult being in the same bathroom as the children doesn’t provoke rape. It is the morals and mental stability of the adults. Although most situations with rape cases and assault are focused on defining laws and injustice, what is pushed to the side is the mental health of pedophiles and rapists, which actually plays a huge role in these acts of harassment. “Extensive research over the past 3 decades (and more) suggests that several mental health issues underlie sexual violence and offending, particularly rape.” (US National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health) Some of the impairments that contribute to committing acts of assault and rape include organic brain damage, hormonal functioning, and abnormalities within the temporal lobe of the brain. Instead of saying that transgender bathrooms will enable rape and assault to occur, adults should be evaluated and given any help that's needed. It's sad that this is only one concentrated area of the entire issue.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, one of the most important things that is seriously overlooked in society is diversity. There has been a huge upcoming from the LGBTQ community in the United States. What’s heartbreaking is the treatment that they’re subject to; discrimination, hate, misunderstandings, and inequality. As time passes, things are supposed to progress, but in this aspect, the nation is regressing, as these harsh treatments are often left as unresolved issues and injustice. Everyone needs to realize that transgender people are people. They have emotions, DNA, a body, just like we do. The only difference between us is our preferred gender. In a time where so much has changed, transgender treatment is something that needs to be improved. Every person should stand up for the rights of any person, regardless of their preferred sexual identity.
I agree, you make some really valid points. There aren’t many times when you use the bathroom when in a public facility. I also agree with the issue of rape. The fact that an adult uses the same bathroom as a child doesn’t provoke rape or increase it in any way. I like the fact that you did a little more research about rape and how it is linked to mental health. This is a great response! At this point, there shouldn’t be any discrimination against individuals or inequality. As the time passes, these things are supposed to change for the better and I feel that society is just repeating history in many aspects.
DeleteI agree with both of your claims, especially your opinion on the bathroom issue. It honestly is being taken in a completely backwards, unprogressive direction from a mixture of ignorant viral craze and uninformed news outlets. If everyone in this country were even the slightest bit informed on what being "intersex" meant and what these people are forced to live with, they issue would have been squashed a long time ago. Instead, we continue to live in a society built upon dehumanizing the outsider and harassing those different from the social norm. When you mistreat these people and punish them for doing what they think is right, you only prompt them to act out more. As you said in this case, by being excluded, they develop mental health issues that provoke irrational behavior. Then they are still forced into these public bathrooms either way! It really is important that people stand up for the rights of these people, not just for them, but for the well being of the American people and youth as a whole.
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ReplyDeleteThis video stated both the negative and positive of the conflict between people who support transgender rights versus people who are against it. I support transgender rights completely. Although it’s understandable where the people opposed to transgender rights are coming from, it’s still not fair. Some arguments are that transgender people can pose a threat to younger children in the bathrooms, but anyone can be a threat regardless of gender.
Restricting people of their rights is completely inhumane in my opinion. Individual’s genders are their own, not someone else’s. Who are we to tell someone what they can or can’t do because of who they want to be? It’s going to take a long time before transgender rights are secured; it's as if history is repeating itself. Equal rights between races, genders, religious beliefs, and sexual identity has always has been a struggle- just let people live their lives happily with who they are.
I agree with you completely. It is nobody’s business but the person’s own on what they do with their body. Nobody has a right to tell other’s what they should do and change about themselves. It must be humiliating for a transgender person to be asked about their private parts because that’s a personal to them especially in front of a lot of people. People who aren’t transgender aren’t asked what their private parts look like, so transgender people shouldn’t either. I also agree with what you say about history repeating itself. It does seem like a new issue is brought up each year that people continue to fight for whether it be between genders or sexual identities.
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ReplyDeleteMost likely due to the format of his show, John Oliver delivered the information with humor, misdirection from what you would assume of certain situations, and utter disbelief in the end. However, John Oliver did make some good points as he clarified some things that may have become synonymous to one another in my mind as I did not give the topic too much thought in the past. When he was describing the difference between what it means to be transgender your sexual orientation, I found that very informative. I also agreed with the fact that gender identity should not be such a problem that leads to ridiculous amounts of discrimination, but I can also see counter arguments and why people would not want integration in bathrooms and things of that nature. I have previously heard, primarily in the case of SOTA and its standing on transgender people and bathrooms, is that it depends on which part of the sexual and gender transition the specific person is in that determines which bathroom they are able to use. However in public situations, I can see why transgender people would not want to be asked private questions about their procedures and the current physical state they are in just to be able to use their bathroom of preference.
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DeleteOut of all of the comments you were the only one I noticed that spoke on John Oliver's sense of humor and I think that's very important. The transgender controversy is very serious and important however John Oliver was able to show the absolute ridiculous nature of the entire debate and controversy while showcasing both sides and anecdotes of transgenders, which is pretty impeccable to me. I think his show is very influential and important for youth as well as adults to watch because it makes many aware of harsh realities that people face everyday. I believe transgender equality will be the next big issue following gay rights and will hopefully have the same successful outcome that they had.
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DeleteI think this is a really interesting point, and really points to the actual discrimination in our nation. Although there are people who feel uncomfortable, I feel strongly that it is not someone's right to make another uncomfortable for their own comfort. In this case, a cis-gendered person does not have the right to take away the rights of a transgendered person because they feel a certain way. So while there are reasons that people feel the way they do, that still doesn't not give them the right to delegitimize others. We should work towards a society where no one feels lesser, and no one has to worry about being open about their gender orientation.
I agree with what you're saying however his delivery in my opinion is useful in many reasons. John Oliver does his show in probably the most informational way out of any talk show host. He is able to mix comedy with a serious topic which makes it easier for people to understand because they are generally more entertained. Otherwise I agree with everything you said. Transgender people do deserve equal rights and it shouldn't even be a discussion. Transgender people should use whichever bathroom they feel they should use because it doesn't matter what others think it's their choice. Yeah.
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ReplyDeleteImmediately John Oliver chose a topic of interest that is currently being brought to everyone's attention. Transgender Rights is a very controversial topic. John Oliver stated in his show, but maybe not so clearly to others that he supports transgender rights and he backed up his opinion with great background information and to me it made sense. I believe a man or woman or whoever they identify themselves by should have the same rights as everyone else. They do not affect me in any way. They should have to the right to live freely and happily with out concern of people judging, but that will never change. A lot of the older generation do not understand and I think the way John Oliver delivered the message was very informative. The bathroom situation I can understand how can you explain to your child why a man or a woman is using the same restroom as they are, but we as society made us think that way, that there is some sort of segregation and discrimination against man or woman.
I think that you make a very valid point in your response. I agree with everything that you said about the issue. Whatever people identify themselves as, is their business. They are still humans and deserve to be treated equally and with the same rights. I also think that older generations do not quite understand the LGBTQ+ issues because they are still in their past mindsets. I think that they need to change their views because they need to adapt to today’s society. I also understand the bathroom situation because little kids are very curious, and they will be blunt when they’re asking questions. I think that we will have to educate the younger generations, but it will be difficult because the older generations are against it.
DeleteI agree that this subject is becoming more and more talked about. I think this is because more people are speaking out about the issues they face being a transgender and the discrimination they go through. It can be a very controversial subject because their are a lot of views and opinions that make people feel the way they do about this topic. I agree with you when you say you believe every woman and men should have the same rights as everyone else no matter what they identify themselves as. It seems like its a basic human right that all people should have.
DeleteJohn Oliver’s clip on transgender rights showed how people, even well-known celebrities did not feel comfortable with transgender people. Many of them did not seem knowledgeable on the subject and/ or make accusations and assumptions on what the transgender rights will cause. An example can be the video clip of a man posing to be a transgender man walking in the bathroom right after a young girl did. Many people feel uncomfortable with the idea of transgender rights because it is against personal beliefs. In my opinion I feel that transgender rights should be established and equal because I am a firm believer that if something creates happiness for someone and doesn’t harm others it should be allowed. Reflecting on this video, I believe that more people should become educated on the process of becoming transgender, along with the individuals reasoning for becoming transgender. People should give transgender rights a chance to make people just like themselves feel comfortable in society.
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DeleteEmma’s statement on transgender rights is also agreeable because she focuses on peoples personal beliefs and how they want to feel comfortable and accepted in society. People should have the right to live the way they want to without being discriminated by others. People like to exaggerate the transgender bathrooms by adding suspicious looking men walking into a girl’s bathroom after a young girl walked into it. People arte misinformed and just want to show the negatives of the transgender bathrooms instead of bringing the positives into the light. “An example can be the video clip of a man posing to be a transgender man walking in the bathroom right after a young girl did.”
I love how adamant you are about the subject. You got your point across quite well and made it known how you feel. I completely agree with you that there should be laws established on the transgender subject but I don’t think it should matter about what bathroom you go in to because it is your choice if you are transgender. Not all people think like that and will bully them so there is no choice and it has to be established unfortunately because not everyone can accept it like you and I. Also this is well written, good job.
DeleteEmma i completely agree with you the fact that people are so uncomfortable with the change of people being transgender is despicable. i agree with how you feel someone should be happy in what ever decision i agree too because it there life there should be no regrets for a person and there decision and they definitely shouldn't be judged by society by these things. the world is changing and people should face the fact that things are not going to be normal and how every one wants them to be.i also agree with your last statement because were judging the people before we even give them a chance to show who they really are.
DeleteJohn Oliver made some valid points about transgender rights. He delivered the information in a humorous way while clarifying different aspects of the issue, it was very informative. I think that a lot of people are misinformed about the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation. This leads to discrimination. How often do you have a conversation with the person next to you in the bathroom stall? You go use the bathroom and then you leave. Discrimination is a very large issue in the United States and it shouldn’t be. It is not fair and in a place that promotes equality, transgender people should have the right to use the bathroom that they identify with. Regarding trans genders in the military, that doesn’t both me either. Especially, if they are willing to fight for our country. I believe that everyone should do what makes them happy. The video included both sides to the argument and there are some understandable reasons why some might oppose. That has a lot to do with the media, religion and even how people are raised. Everyone has their own opinion but, no one should be bullied or discriminated against. I don’t think that this should be an issue at all. Simply because you were born one gender, doesn't mean you should be forced to believe that's the only option for you to define who YOU are.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the way he talked about this subject in a humorous way was interesting. He also was very serious and informative about this situation. I also agree that you made a very good point when you said people dont really communicate from stall to stall so it shouldn't matter what person is in the stall next to you. It is really sad that America has to face another form of discrimination. It is sad that they are judged so harshly for being themselves. I agree that the media , religion and all sorts of factors determines the way people feel towards transgenders and also how they act towards them.
DeleteI loved your quote "Simply because you were born one gender, does not mean you should be forced to believe that's the only option for you to define who YOU are". I feel the same way and agree with you completely. No one is having full conversations with each other in the bathroom. You're totally right. It's literally you get in and you get out. You're going in there for one purpose, to use the restroom. What you said about the media, religion, and other factors contributing to people's feelings and actions towards trans genders is true as well.
DeleteI loved your quote "Simply because you were born one gender, does not mean you should be forced to believe that's the only option for you to define who YOU are". I feel the same way and agree with you completely. No one is having full conversations with each other in the bathroom. You're totally right. It's literally you get in and you get out. You're going in there for one purpose, to use the restroom. What you said about the media, religion, and other factors contributing to people's feelings and actions towards trans genders is true as well.
DeleteI agree that being transgender is frowned upon in certain religion, but they shouldn't be bullied and discriminated against. Also, it is very true that you are who you are, no one can stop you from being you except yourself. So if you want to be a boy but you are a girl, so what. Same if you want to be a girl but you are a boy. No one goes to the bathroom to have a conversation with the person in the stall next to you, that's not the point of going to the bathroom. I agree with everything you said.
DeleteAurion, I totally agree of what you said. You pointed out something to me that I never really thought of. Your right you very rarely start up a conversation in the bathroom with a stranger. People are misinformed and you pointed out that sexual orientation and gender identity are two different things that some people don't seem to comprehend. And by John Oliver choosing this controversial topic he explains in many different perspectives. We as the United Sates are known for our opportunities and freedom of religion etc. So why are we fighting this, it is so ridiculous.
DeleteI really liked your statement about the initial bathroom encounter and how when you use the rest room you usually do not communicate with the person in the stall next to you. I also agree that you should not be forced to be who or what someone else says you are. You should be free to make your own decisions. think of some of the times you have used the public restroom and someone else is in there, now you have no clue if they are transgender or not but they did not bother you, they used the bathroom and continued on with their day.
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ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed the John Oliver video, I found it informative, and enjoyed that he delivered his point of view thoroughly, and all of his information clearly through the use of satire. I really like that he started off the video to clarify misinformation about being transgender and how that differs from ones sexual orientation. I think too often the differences between the two are confused, and by beginning his video with this information his point of view is further clarified and his argument proven from the very beginning. I also really liked that he put out there that many people fear not the transgender community but of other people who would try to work the new system to abuse it. That those people abusing the system would still be prosecuted by the full extent of the law, and he pointed out that this reasoning based on fear would result in those people who would actually be benefitted by gender neutral bathrooms would be hurt with the lack of them. I think if the video didn’t use humor and satire to point out the flaws in others opinions that oppose transgender neutral bathrooms the video, like so many others, would become hostile and a 'who can say their opinion louder competition' than actually making and proving real points for and against those who have concerns with gender neutral bathrooms. I really wish that this was a topic that was something that was brought up and discussed at a younger age sense transgender people and the transgender movement has been traced back to and documented even during the time of the civil war. I think everyone, younger and older generations would have and will benefit from learning more about other gender identities in general, and at a younger age. I can only hope that my generation and the generations that follow educate themselves and their peers at an earlier age so we can end the inherent fear of things we do not understand, in order to end the fear mongering politics that happens in order to get people to vote on topics they are not educated on, and there for hurt those that would actually benefit by it.
I really like the reporter at the beginning of the video not understanding what the phrase "transgender woman" meant. The fact that he attempted to reconcile a somewhat complicated idea like gender identity in purely physical terms made me laugh. I also agree with your notion that young people should be taught about gender identity at a young age 100%. In areas like the Netherlands they have been very successful with their sex education programs, teaching kids not only about what it means to distinguish between gender identity, sex and sexual orientation, but also about the basics of love and physical contact as early as kindergarten.
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ReplyDeleteWe live in a developed nation in the year 2016. My only response to the idea that some people are less than others is shock. America has had a tumultuous history, and for most of its past, not everyone had equal rights. First, basically anyone that wasn’t white or rich or male didn’t have equal rights. Eventually, after six presidents, Americans decided that not only the rich should influence politics. Andrew Jackson, a terrible human being or not, was a commoner, and not part of the political elite at the time. Then, almost 100 years into the development of our nation, African American slaves were freed, and in theory, given citizenship and the right to vote. Then women gained suffrage in 1920, and after the Civil Rights movement of the 50’s and 60’s, America legitimately became a nation where blacks could and were equal in many ways.
So it seems absolutely reasonable that in an era where almost everyone has equal rights, that members of the LGBT community, and especially Transgender Americans would have equal rights as well. Much like John Oliver said, transgender Americans are still discriminated against in many parts of America, and can not in any conscious or truth say that they are fully equal members of society. In states that are attempting to punish someone for using a bathroom, transgender Americans are forced to go against their identity and be shamed by other members of society.
Many Americans opposed to transgender rights would argue that by allowing transgender Americans in bathrooms that they identity with, they are endangering and making uncomfortable individuals who also use that bathroom. Yet the assertion that a transgender person is somehow more likely than others to assault another person is preposterous. Aside from the fact that there is no empirical or statistical evidence to that effect whatsoever, any person who is willing to commit assault is not worrying about bathroom rules. It is an undeniable truth that some people don’t have morals, and that holds true to people of all types. Black men, women, Native Americans, immigrants, white people, and even transgender people have the capability to be terrible people, but that doesn’t automatically mean that they are! Just because someone identifies different than the gender they were assigned at birth does not mean that they are somehow a lesser or less moral person. It is ridiculous that we as a society have not realised that we should judge based on the quality of one's character, not their gender identity.
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ReplyDeleteWe live in a developed nation in the year 2016. My only response to the idea that some people are less than others is shock. America has had a tumultuous history, and for most of its past, not everyone had equal rights. First, basically anyone that wasn’t white or rich or male didn’t have equal rights. Eventually, after six presidents, Americans decided that not only the rich should influence politics. Andrew Jackson, a terrible human being or not, was a commoner, and not part of the political elite at the time. Then, almost 100 years into the development of our nation, African American slaves were freed, and in theory, given citizenship and the right to vote. Then women gained suffrage in 1920, and after the Civil Rights movement of the 50’s and 60’s, America legitimately became a nation where blacks could and were equal in many ways.
So it seems absolutely reasonable that in an era where almost everyone has equal rights, that members of the LGBT community, and especially Transgender Americans would have equal rights as well. Much like John Oliver said, transgender Americans are still discriminated against in many parts of America, and can not in any conscious or truth say that they are fully equal members of society. In states that are attempting to punish someone for using a bathroom, transgender Americans are forced to go against their identity and be shamed by other members of society.
Many Americans opposed to transgender rights would argue that by allowing transgender Americans in bathrooms that they identity with, they are endangering and making uncomfortable individuals who also use that bathroom. Yet the assertion that a transgender person is somehow more likely than others to assault another person is preposterous. Aside from the fact that there is no empirical or statistical evidence to that effect whatsoever, any person who is willing to commit assault is not worrying about bathroom rules. It is an undeniable truth that some people don’t have morals, and that holds true to people of all types. Black men, women, Native Americans, immigrants, white people, and even transgender people have the capability to be terrible people, but that doesn’t automatically mean that they are! Just because someone identifies different than the gender they were assigned at birth does not mean that they are somehow a lesser or less moral person. It is ridiculous that we as a society have not realised that we should judge based on the quality of one's character, not their gender identity.
The bathroom debate that seems to baffle so many close-minded people living in America really should not be that big of a deal. The fact that there are bills in our legislatures that are trying to interfere with some of the most basic rights of human beings in unsettling. The fear and disregard and disrespect that surrounds this topic disgusts me. For the government to go out of their way to dehumanize and discriminate against an entire group of people is reminiscent of a time in history that I thought we have surpassed. All people should be able to use whatever bathroom suits their gender identity. A gender neutral option, similar to the family restrooms, would be a viable solution to this problem that really should not be an issue. Also the reasoning behind all of this is just really bigoted and ignorant and solely based on fear, I think that people forget that the bathrooms they use in their own homes are not gendered.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree Jaymee! With gay rights finally being acknowledged i would've thought that that would've made us a stronger and smarter nation. It's actually sad that instead of progressing hundreds of years later we're still finding ourselves in the same place amidst the same cycle of discriminating against others. I think that the even scarier thing to think about is that the government was implemented with the goal of assisting it's people, not hindering their progression but look where we are? For years we've been trying to gain FULL EQUALITY for all people but sadly I think prejudices will continue to surface and our goal may never be met.
DeleteJaymee I love how you unapologetically state your opinion. Not only did you give reasons for why this shouldn’t even be an issue, but you gave a possible resolution. You would think that after the major breakthrough on June 26th, 20115, that something like this would not be so controversial. When reading your response you can almost imagine you typing it vigorously and full of passion. You meant every word you wrote in this paragraph and it definitely shows within you writing. Your an amazing writer and I believe that this response could and might change the outlook of one of some of the ignorant people that are against the video.
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DeleteJaymee !! I love how you came up with the neutral bathroom solution, I have never even thought about coming up with something like that. Since so many people are being close-minded about people choosing whether or not to go to the bathroom based on their gender identity. A lot of people do not understand what transgender men and women go through and that's why they are so quick to discriminate. Society made it seem that there is only a man and a woman, and society has never considered transgender people until now. The solution you came up with may only work temporarily, but maybe there will come a time when human rights do not get taken away from anyone
Thank you Avery! I think that our generation is capable of truly changing America for the better. We as a whole are more educated on issues faced by many minorities and countless other groups that are persecuted The old people with bigoted opinions who are in control will die out and we will take their place and create a more open-minded and accepting society. In some ways we have made great strides but there is still quite a long journey ahead of us until we achieve true equality and respect for all human beings.
DeleteYou bring up a very valid point, that the bathrooms in people’s houses are used by both genders. People that disagree with transgender rights which includes the bathroom issue, have a number of reasons as to why they do not want transgender people using their bathrooms. These include the safety of their children and personal safety. If one wanted to harm someone they will do it, regardless if they had to change their gender. These people who are against transgender people using the bathrooms of their gender identity only have an issue with it because it feels uncomfortable for them, or it’s against their beliefs. People need to open their minds to how wonderful this could be for people who feel unequal. It will create happiness in so many lives and we all know everyone needs happiness in their lives. This is an example of how some Americans are close minded, like Jaymee was discussing, Wonderful response Jaymee!
DeleteJohn Oliver showed in his show that he had courage to say something that many people would be afraid to say. Living in the times that we live in now people shouldn't be discriminating against anything or anyone. In his video he showed people who were well known and even celebrities who didn't feel comfortable with the whole transgender ideas and most of them didn't seem like they were educated on the topic. Many people kids and teens are bullied eve day by identifying themselves as someone they want to be it being male or female. Bills should be passed that give people to use the proper bathroom of their gender and the gender they identify as, as Oliver said the people who don't like this idea aren't educated on the topic that by letting someone choose the bathroom they want still doesn't make child molesting legal, or any other crimes that may be committed legal. The only things that will be happening is someone who identifies as a male or female will be able to use any bathroom they want to use.
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DeleteWeston’s statement on transgender bathrooms and its various concerns is agreeable because we are in a different time of living, discriminating people for their sexual orientation is wrong and should be a punishment. Everyone deserves to live in the matter they choose in peace. What’s also agreeable in the statement is that people are very uncomfortable when discussing transgender people and the things that apply to them. “Even celebrities who didn't feel comfortable with the whole transgender ideas and most of them didn't seem like they were educated on the topic.” Bills should be passed or some sort of identification should be provided to show that they’re able to use another bathroom.
I agree because it seems as though the people that aren't education on the topic are always the ones that are bully others and aren't understanding of the topic. If a law is passed for people to use the bathroom in the gender they identify with doesn't mean that child molesting and other crimes are legal. People need to learn about the issue then they can have an opinion because people are speaking without knowing the true facts.
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ReplyDeletehe mistreatment that's directed towards transgender people should not be acceptable within the United States. I feel like forcing transgender individuals and focusing so much on them entering a specific bathroom or forcing them to go into a place where they don't feel comfortable is wrong. I feel if some people would put themselves in a transgender individual shoes I would hope it will make them more open minded. Transgender people does not bother me at all but the fear of certain situations happening where a man can take advantage of a woman by pretending to be transgender when entering a bathroom. Analyzing and reflecting back on this video people should to take further action to become educated on becoming a transgender or getting to know one.
ReplyDeleteForcing someone into a bathroom where they will be clearly out of place and feel uncomfortable is unnecessary. The argument based on fear children being assaulted by “grown men” in a public bathroom has no sustenance. The only people at risk of violence, are the transgender men and women whose dignity and freedom of violence are being constantly denied. First and foremost there has never been a report of a transgender person assaulting someone in a bathroom, rather it is the complete opposite. There are endless accounts of transgender people being assaulted in bathrooms. In fact if you google anything related to a transgender woman or man assaulting someone in a bathroom only articles about transgender adults being assaulted in the bathrooms they identify with. Secondly people with the intentions of harming children are not likely to assault a child in a public restroom. Going to the bathroom should not cause this much of a problem for other people!
DeleteI completely agree with you, Mina. The notion of making bathrooms inclusionary based on gender identity rather than biological sex shouldn’t be such a hard concept to grasp. The irrational fear of possible assault has no real ground to stand on. The true statistics of violence and aggression towards trans people are frighteningly high. Many are targets of violent sex crimes based on hate. So many trans people are victims of the same crimes that the ignorant public claims they are likely to perpetuate. Assault in a public restroom is nearly unheard of, people just want to do their business and get out.
It is quite sick that transgender people are being assaulted for going into a bathroom that they feel best suits them. Transgender people transition because they feel they are a different gender. Restricting them from going into the bathroom they feel comfortable in, for the gender they identify as, is and should be acceptable. America is supposed to be based on equality and freedom. By not letting transgender people use the male or female bathroom that is applicable to their gender identity, is taking away their freedom. People should not be opposed to the idea of transgender people using their bathroom of the identity because it takes away happiness and an equal life.
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ReplyDeletePrior to watching John Oliver’s segment on Transgender rights I had a pretty good understanding of what transgender meant and I had a pretty good general knowledge of the troubles that they’ve faced and are still facing. My intention when I first starting watching the video was to immediately try to figure out what side of the fence that Oliver was on. Almost instantaneously you can see that Oliver is a firm believer in transgender rights. Using a combination of analogies, metaphors and humor Oliver tells the audience his opinion on this issue, and if it should even be an issue at all. I do feel as though Oliver could have approached the topic with a little more seriousness because this is a touchy subject, but being familiar with the basis of his show adding comedy felt necessary in a sense. All in all I do feel as though I stand by John Oliver and how he feels towards this topic.
To hear and see the many hurtful dispositions people have in regards to the transgender bathroom conflict, is disgusting and utterly ridiculous. People fail to realize that by passing a law saying that transgenders and all those that identify with a different gender than what they were born with, have to use the bathroom that aligns with their sexual organs is unheard of and an obvious form of discrimination. Parents are using their children as a way to hide what they might not understand. Bathrooms are not meant to be nor are they usually considered a social haven. You’re meant to go in and urinate/defecate and mind your business. There’s not much more to it. In some foreign countries they have urinals outside in public places yet America is so wrapped up with which genitalia is allowed in which bathroom. It bothers me that rather than progressing and putting an end to discrimination, people in power are choosing to reinforce it with things that should not be justified. When people use the bathrooms at home, the last thing on their mind is what gender used the bathroom before them or who may come in after. Why should other bathrooms be any different.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree the expressions and terms used are uncalled for and these laws are uncalled for. we have the right to be who we are. and if you are truly opposite the sex that you were born then you have the right to live as who you are and use the restroom as you are without being opposed by society. Yes there is a probability of someone posing as transgender for unspeakable deeds which many fear but think of one of the times you used the public restroom and someone else was in there there is a high probability that stayed to them self used the bathroom and left without bothering you. that woman or man could've have been transgender and all they were worried about was using the bathroom and getting back to what ever they doing. Free the Pee.
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DeleteIt is ridiculous how some people use their kids to hide from change and things that make them uncomfortable. I almost feel like we live in a land of cowards who are afraid to make change, because it doesn’t do anything for their well being, a very selfish and childish way to stop the progress of a country.. So Avery you hit the nail right on the head with that one. These people are using ridiculous excuses to shy away from something they don’t understand because they don’t want to try to understand (similar to the situation surrounding my words on the senior page about empathy).
Isis Cable
ReplyDeleteThis clip brings attention to the issue of discrimination against Transgender. I observed John Oliver’s perspective about the topic by the evidence he is giving about the arrogant comments and how society is oblivious to what these people go through. I noticed that all his examples of how people tend to be offensive towards transgendered people are on TV and they are nationally embarrassed. My position on this topic is in agreeance with John Oliver, the fact the people shouldn’t be concerned about what someone else does with themselves and they should not be treated as less than a person because it doesn’t impact anyone expect for in one of his examples that people “feel uncomfortable”. I also observed his humor in relationship to the topic. He uses a lot of sarcasm relating the issue to popular topics and people. It is kind of the same humor the show family guy uses. He makes this serious issue more comedic because how silly people’s reactions and views are on these people and what they choose to do with themselves.
This video just proves that there is still discrimination going on in American but this issue over which bathroom transgender people have to go in is stupid. Whether they were born a girl and now considers themselves as a boy or vice versa it shouldn't matter which bathroom they go in. They should go in the bathroom that they are comfortable in whether it is the gender that were born as or as the gender they consider themselves as. John Oliver is completely correct that we shouldn't be concerned on other people's decision, that's their decision not yours, deal with it. If they aren't bothering you don't bother them. It shouldn't make a difference, in my opinion. You live with both gender at home anyways, and nowadays its nothing we haven't seen by now. Come on now, grow up.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you on "you live with both genders at home, anyways". You made a valid point with that statement. We should not be concerned with other people's decisions, you're right. Our opinions should strictly be just that, OUR opinions. They do not have to be broadcasted all the time.
DeleteI totally agree with you on "you live with both genders at home, anyways". You made a valid point with that statement. We should not be concerned with other people's decisions, you're right. Our opinions should strictly be just that, OUR opinions. They do not have to be broadcasted all the time.
DeleteThis video is an perfect example of the change we have yet to see, clearly this is discrimination. His attitude through out the whole video is condescending and quite obnoxious. John Oliver kind of tries to undermine the issue, not completely throw it away but kind of brush it under the rug. Yes he is entitled to his opinion but he should keep it as that. Children dealing with gender identity issues , where they do not know where to use the bathroom becasue to them the assigned bathroom doesn't fit, could eventually see this and it could affect them for the rest of their lives. Although true that we do not have to abide by non government enforced rules, we could have a little more common curtsy for our fellow planet mates.
ReplyDeleteThis video clip brought to focus a major issue that still exists in America today. Through showing several stories about transgender people and their experiences, John Oliver was able to educate, in a comedic way, about the prejudice and daily issues these people experience. Oliver also mixed in clips showing prominent media and political figures either being ignorant or disrespectful to highlight the mass amount of mistreatment and hatred that is at the forefront of so much of American culture. Although the main issue itself is founded on prejudice and chosen ideals, I believe that a large amount of people who hold these opinions simply are uneducated. The amount of learning and teaching we do about transgender issues, and LGBT issues in general, is minimal. If people were more well versed in the actual facts and reality, it would undermine those who simply choose to preach hatred. As humans, we are scared of the things we don’t know, so simply knowing more about these issues should help.
ReplyDeleteWow Jacob I totally agree with everything you said. It's crazy how kids in an Arts school in New York can have such similar views. I agree that there is a serious disconnect between the people who are trying to pass laws and the society around them. These law makers and people who are proposing policy don't understand how the tide of the national views towards transgender rights is shifting. This can be attributed to multiple things such as age, personal beliefs, and party identification. Transgender rights is something that should not be argued about on the senate or supreme court floor as it has already been determined. All people have equal rights under the constitution and if some people identify with a different gender then they are born with, they should be comfortable in their life. They shouldn't feel alienated by society just because some people are scared and confused about them.
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